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David B. Smith

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February 15, 2001

 

"GOODBYE, WORLD, GOODBYE" #4

SLEEPING ON A MARS MISSION

He's probably the classic "bad-boy" computer of all time, and his name was HAL. He was the huge, sinister brain behind the space adventure, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and maybe you remember that quiet silky voice, where he kept saying, "I have the utmost confidence in this mission, Dave." "I'm shutting down your oxygen, Dave." "Why are you unplugging my memory bank, Dave?"
Well, with all due respect to the futuristic visions of Arthur Clarke and Stanley Kubrick, WE ARE THERE! We're in the year 2001 at this very moment, and things haven't gone exactly as they've planned, although our computers (much smaller now, thankfully) are still misbehaving as much as ever. But at least they're not killing people, as HAL did in that old science-fiction classic. Maybe you recall how there were a number of astronauts on board this manned mission to a distant planet. And because the trip was going to take so many years, they put three men on board in an unconscious state of deep sleep. Their heartbeats were slowed down to about two per minute, breathing, all automatically controlled, at one or two per minute, etc. The idea being that when the mission arrived at Mars after so many years, these men would feel like the trip had just taken a few seconds. And they'd be resurrected, ready to go, without suffering any ill effects from the long sleep.
And I guess that's why we bring up the illustration today. Because as we read our Bibles, and wrestle with one verse saying this, and another verse saying something else, both penned by the Apostle Paul, it's a struggle to find the consistent Bible truth.
In Philippians 1:23, Paul writes almost longingly about the fact that if he were to die right now, he would then depart and be with Christ. And who among us wouldn't want to do that? That option is "better by far" by Paul's own testimony, except for his unselfish determination as a Christian missionary to stay and serve his fellow man.
However, whenever this same godly, inspired prophet of the Lord writes about the doctrine of the resurrection, as he does eloquently in First Thessalonians four, for example, he puts emphasis on the fact that the dead in Christ aren't going to rise until the second coming of Jesus. Over in First Corinthians 15, we find the same thing. Verses 22 and 23:

"For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all WILL be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, WHEN HE COMES, those who belong to Him."

Verse 26:
"The LAST enemy to be destroyed is death."


Verses 51 and 52:
"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed - in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMPET. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."

So we have a difficult Bible question. If a person goes to heaven right at the minute when they die, as in "depart and be with Christ," then why does this same man, Paul, write over and over about the resurrection, and people coming up out of their graves, not now, but later when Jesus comes again? How can the same person be in two places at once?
Well, let me share with you the common answer to that, and then a possible explanation. Many faithful and good Christians, undoubtedly the majority of them, understand the Bible to teach that when a believer dies, his or her SOUL, as an immortal entity, immediately goes to be with Christ. And Paul's expression, over in Second Corinthians five, "absent from the body and present with the Lord" appears to give support to that concept; I won't deny that for a moment. Continuing then, this proposed teaching asserts that when Christ comes again the second time, that immortal soul, that disembodied spirit, comes down and is at that time reunited with the resurrected BODY. So a Christian who dies could "depart and be with Christ" just as a spiritual entity, a soul, and then when Jesus returns again, receive his or her resurrected, glorified body. And that's how these two conflicting ideas could be reconciled.
Well, friend, I have respect for friends and scholars and fellow ministers who hold to this position. As I mentioned yesterday, here at the Voice of Prophecy, we take a different position, and I hope you'll stay with me as I tell you why. In any case, I hope we can keep studying together beyond today's discussion, because one thing is sure: our salvation doesn't rest on resurrection doctrines, but on the resurrected Jesus Christ. Isn't that right?
Anyway, I'd like to share with you two points. There's a word in First Thessalonians four which is absolutely vital to this discussion. Chapter four, verse 17. Paul's already referred to that great moment when the dead are raised up.

"After that," he adds, "we who are still alive and are left will be caught up WITH THEM in the clouds TO MEET the Lord in the air."

And he says with great conviction here that those who have died are going to meet Jesus, the Lifegiver, on that day. Not the moment they die. Not as a disembodied soul of some kind. No, they, along with those of us who are still alive, will MEET Jesus at that very moment, on Resurrection Morning. Now let's all agree that it is meaningless to talk about those people, our departed loved ones, meeting Jesus on that day if they've already been with Him in heaven for years or decades or centuries. "What do you mean, 'meet Him'?" they would protest. "We've been with Him all along!"

Here's point number two regarding the possibility that ghostlike souls up in heaven would come down and meet up with their resurrected bodies at that moment. We have to face up to the fact that the Apostle Paul never once, not a single time, says or suggests or even hints that something like that would ever occur. A soul reuniting with a body? He just never once refers to that happening. In fact, the clear testimony of his own writing, right here, and in First Corinthians 15 and elsewhere, is exactly the opposite: that the dead PERSON will rise up on that day to meet the Lifegiver. The final verses in First Corinthians 15 plainly say that mortal people will receive immortality THEN. The perishable will be raised IMperishable THEN. Death will be swallowed up in victory THEN.
Over in Second Timothy four, Paul, who is now very near death, writes about "I have fought a good fight, I have finished the race," and so forth. And then he rejoices that God has for him a crown of righteousness which Jesus WILL GIVE to him. But when? "On that day." Clearly referring to the Second Coming.
Now, friend, let me ask what I hope is a completely hypothetical question. Suppose you were to die this very year. We certainly hope not, but just suppose. But you die with your faith in Jesus Christ, our solid Rock. Your salvation is absolutely secure. And let's also suppose that Jesus doesn't return for another 50 years. However, as the Bible clearly teaches, the state of man in death is exactly like the deepest of sleeps. You're like those three astronauts on board that Space Odyssey rocket, in deep, dreamless hibernation. Fifty years go by as though they were less than two seconds. A mathematical "point," as one theologian puts it. You close your eyes and then, seemingly instantly, you open them up again. Question: Wouldn't it be appropriate for you to say, in your dying moment, "Goodbye - I'm departing to be with Christ." Because you'd KNOW that in your next conscious moment, in two seconds, you were going to hear that trumpet blow and see the wonderful face of your Redeemer.
You see, according to that concept, which is absolutely biblical - even Jesus called death a sleep - Paul's teachings are beautifully consistent. I have a good Adventist seminary friend, Dr. Jack Blanco, who has carefully studied this doctrine, and then wrote a wonderful Bible paraphrase edition to reflect this great truth. Here's how he renders Philippians 1:23:

"So I've been wrestling with mixed emotions. On one hand, I would prefer to be sentenced to death and in the next moment of consciousness see Christ, which would be much better than staying here in this old world."
And let me propose one more thought question. Did you know that the Bible not once talks about you and me having immortal souls? Not once. In fact, Paul, right here in First Timothy six, writes about God, the King of kings, "who ALONE is immortal." Jesus told people how His Father was fully capable of destroying a person in hell, body AND soul. That's Matthew 10:28. And I've already mentioned that we who are mortal will finally PUT ON immortality when Jesus comes to claim us.

Maybe you're asking this question: what's the difference? You die and instantly go to heaven and see Jesus, or you die and it SEEMS like instantly when you see Jesus. For all Christians, then, heaven seems to come instantly, so what's the difference what you believe? No difference, really, except that with one model you get included the doctrine of an immortal soul. Now, the New Age movement is here and thriving today because of a belief in the immortal soul. The Hindu religion and other eastern deceptions are with us because they believe in reincarnation and the immortal soul. Psychics and those who operate séances and other demonic activities are in business because of the belief in an immortal soul. Marshall Herff Applewhite and his Heaven's Gate cult took their poison-laced applesauce snacks because they believed in an immortal soul. That's the difference, and it's not a small one.
Well, friend, sometimes we call this "one reporter's opinion." If your view is different, that actually kind of excites me, because it means you're a faithful Bible student . . . or else you wouldn't even HAVE a view. And again, we find our safety in what Paul says over and over in all these Bible passages:

"For to me, to LIVE is Christ."

 

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